@netkitteh @drak @boris i'm saying reason and rationality don't exist in the wild and are mostly false gods worshipped by satanists. the foundation of Western Civ is far more might/violence, not reason or rationality. here is Isaiah Berlin:

> Reason is the thinnest of walls against the raging seas of violent emotion: on so insecure a basis no permanent structure can ever be erected. Irrationality, so far from being an obstacle, has historically led to peace, security, and strength, and is indispensable to society: it is rational institutions, republics, elective monarchies, democracies, associations founded on the enlightened principles of free love that collapse soonest; authoritarian churches, hereditary monarchies and aristocracies, traditional forms of life, like the highly irrational institution of the family founded on lifelong marriage it is they that persist.