#! I finally managed to get 'poor old Grace's drives out of their 5.25" Coolermaster cases - I thought I could just slide them out, but no, the whole thing was screwed together with 8 screws each, some of which were *very* tightly fastened. The cases won't be reusable (I had to cut cables to even get them out of the computer case) but I now have two neat little fans begging for a new use...