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items: drak: Oh, great, #systemd sabotages #DNSSEC by ignoring bugs: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/9867 — and has been doing so since 2018.
items: drak: power and blindness: the tragedy behind #systemd: https://www.draketo.de/english/politics/power-blindness-systemd
items: drak: Many good reasons to avoid #systemd wherever you can: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3u2ahq/whats_wrong_with_systemd/
items: qbi: Habt ihr Erfahrung mit #systemd gemacht? Erzählt dem @datenkanal davon: https://vereinte.verwirrung.institute/p/dk70 !linux !debian
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items: mcscx: RT @rysiek #systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
items: rysiek: #systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
items: mcscx: Installed a test system with Ubuntu 17: DNS doesn't work w/ vanilla install. The local DNS server (provided by #systemd) needs "DNSSEC=no"
items: clacke: @bob @stigatle Seems LTS focused. Also no #systemd: https://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-systemd-support/
items: clacke: Is there a trivial way to tell a systemd unit to not run until rc.local has been run? I guess rc.local is run by some #systemd unit that I can use as a prerequisite?
items: qbi: Die letzte gute Tat des Abends wäre es, eine service-Datei für #systemd zu schreiben. !linux !debian
items: http://sn.1w6.org/notice/217276
items: http://sn.1w6.org/notice/216649
items: http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1462037
items: http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1460726
items: mcscx: RT @schestowitz #systemd R! /dir/.* destroys root http://qttr.at/1scw
items: schestowitz: #systemd R! /dir/.* destroys root https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644
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items: mcscx: @heluecht bei Debian-Servern deinstalliere ich gerne #systemd und installiere #sysvcore. Systemd fühlt sich “falsch“ an für mich.
items: lnxw48: @question Which #system is overall #toxic? You cannot be talking about the grand and glorious #SystemD.
items: mcscx: RT @v Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://qttr.at/1g9c
items: qbi: Loggt euch nie zu oft per #SSH ein. Der #systemd bremst euch sonst https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1591411 !linux
items: lnxw48: #Debian / #SystemD bug exposes everything user types (including #passwords) onto text console http://url.federati.net/D5UoC #security
items: mcscx: RT @lissovboris #systemd trend is quite dangeous thing. A GNU/Linux distribution should be as simple as possible and embrace UNIX philos ...
items: qbi: Seit #systemd lese ich Release Notes wieder besonders aufmerksam … !linux
items: mcscx: !Slackware's Patrick Volkerding steers clear of #systemd. ur1.ca/pevbe I might go back to Slackware after a 20yr long !Debian 'intermezzo'
items: mcscx: @c107feed indeed, I'd like to run one of those three. Although I don't care for Fedora. And neither for Arch, as they use #systemd. !Debian
items: qbi: Meldungen, über die ich mich amüsieren kann: Failed to terminate process with PID '15431' ('Success'). #systemd !linux
items: mcscx: @arashm guess: you may 1st need to set the journald #daemon to write even the debug level events into its db (I know nothing about #systemd)
items: mcscx: @benfell "The #runit init system is now enabled by default, replacing #systemd in the base system." ur1.ca/jd8ho
items: mcscx: @hfaust I read that !voidlinux have replaced #systemd after using it previously. +1
items: mcscx: @moaz786 Debian 8: install sysv-core to get rid of #systemD
items: der: @debian Why should i support Debian, after it became obsolete-on-release Redhat-Clone /w #systemd? (Uninstalling afterwards is no choice!)
items: v: Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://v.villenave.net/url/8652
items: lnxw48: @nds @theru @jezra @windigo I agree. Best to install new. Four out of four upgrades to #systemd have blown up, but zero out of five from-scratch installs have had problems.
items: lnxw48: @x11r5 @question Is "first #bot to boot" still boss? Maybe the great #BOTenkhamen, ruler of all #bots, runs #upstart or #systemd. @#bot
items: mcscx: RT @lukaso666 How to #remove #systemd from a #Debian jessie / #sid installation → http://is.gd/ENX3SP | #no_systemd #sysvinit
items: lukaso666: How to #remove #systemd from a #Debian jessie / #sid installation → http://is.gd/ENX3SP | #no_systemd #sysvinit
items: stwn: Even #systemd wants to manage containers. http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/645013/5b801866e690b5d2/ #Docker #CoreOS

drak: Oh, great, #systemd sabotages #DNSSEC by ignoring bugs: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/9867 — and has been doing so since 2018.
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drak: power and blindness: the tragedy behind #systemd: https://www.draketo.de/english/politics/power-blindness-systemd
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encoded: power and blindness: the tragedy behind #systemd: https://www.draketo.de/english/politics/power-blindness-systemd
date: 2019-04-23T16:11:19+00:00
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drak: Many good reasons to avoid #systemd wherever you can: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3u2ahq/whats_wrong_with_systemd/
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encoded: Many good reasons to avoid #systemd wherever you can: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3u2ahq/whats_wrong_with_systemd/
date: 2018-11-04T14:42:58+00:00
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qbi: Habt ihr Erfahrung mit #systemd gemacht? Erzählt dem @datenkanal davon: https://vereinte.verwirrung.institute/p/dk70 !linux !debian
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encoded: Habt ihr Erfahrung mit #systemd gemacht? Erzählt dem @datenkanal davon: https://vereinte.verwirrung.institute/p/dk70 !linux !debian
date: 2018-04-12T12:37:46+00:00
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title: clacke: No idea how many of these have 3 users and how many have 30000, but wow, that is a number of Arch derivatives: Alfheim Linux ALOBE Antergos ArchBox ArchEX ArchLabs Arch Linux 32 Arch Linux ARM ArchStrike Arch XFerience Artix Linux Astia https://social.heldscal.la/notice/6212836
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description: clacke's status on Sunday, 18-Feb-18 10:29:03 UTC
encoded: No idea how many of these have 3 users and how many have 30000, but wow, that is a number of Arch derivatives: Alfheim Linux ALOBE Antergos ArchBox ArchEX ArchLabs Arch Linux 32 Arch Linux ARM ArchStrike Arch XFerience Artix Linux Astia…
date: 2018-02-18T10:29:03+00:00
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mcscx: RT @rysiek #systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
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encoded: RT @rysiek #systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
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rysiek: #systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
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mcscx: Installed a test system with Ubuntu 17: DNS doesn't work w/ vanilla install. The local DNS server (provided by #systemd) needs "DNSSEC=no"
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encoded: Installed a test system with Ubuntu 17: DNS doesn't work w/ vanilla install. The local DNS server (provided by #systemd) needs "DNSSEC=no"
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clacke: @bob @stigatle Seems LTS focused. Also no #systemd: https://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-systemd-support/
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description: clacke's status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-17 16:19:42 UTC
encoded: @bob @stigatle Seems LTS focused. Also no #systemd: https://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-systemd-support/
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clacke: Is there a trivial way to tell a systemd unit to not run until rc.local has been run? I guess rc.local is run by some #systemd unit that I can use as a prerequisite?
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description: clacke's status on Thursday, 19-Oct-17 08:55:49 UTC
encoded: Is there a trivial way to tell a systemd unit to not run until rc.local has been run? I guess rc.local is run by some #systemd unit that I can use as a prerequisite?
date: 2017-10-19T08:55:49+00:00
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qbi: Die letzte gute Tat des Abends wäre es, eine service-Datei für #systemd zu schreiben. !linux !debian
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description: qbi's status on Friday, 15-Sep-17 21:11:58 UTC
encoded: Die letzte gute Tat des Abends wäre es, eine service-Datei für #systemd zu schreiben. !linux !debian
date: 2017-09-15T21:11:58+00:00
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http://sn.1w6.org/notice/217276
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title: drak: Theorie zu #systemd und Microsoft: https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/News-Kommentare/Fuchsia-Google-veroeffentlicht-Code-fuer-ein-neues-Betriebssystem/Linux-und-systemd-Poettering-wird-von-Microsoft-bezahlt/posting-29051456/show/ — gerade drüber gestolpert
description: drak's status on Thursday, 06-Jul-17 06:03:46 UTC
encoded: Theorie zu #systemd und Microsoft: <a href="https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/News-Kommentare/Fuchsia-Google-veroeffentlicht-Code-fuer-ein-neues-Betriebssystem/Linux-und-systemd-Poettering-wird-von-Microsoft-bezahlt/posting-29051456/show/" title="https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/News-Kommentare/Fuchsia-Google-veroeffentlicht-Code-fuer-ein-neues-Betriebssystem/Linux-und-systemd-Poettering-wird-von-Microsoft-bezahlt/posting-29051456/show/" rel="nofollow external">https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/News-Kommentare/Fuchsia-Google-veroeffentlicht-Code-fuer-ein-neues-Betriebssystem/Linux-und-systemd-Poettering-wird-von-Microsoft-bezahlt/posting-29051456/show/ — gerade drüber gestolpert
date: 2017-07-06T06:03:46+00:00
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title: drak: If you create a user account for 0pointer, #systemd will run its services as root. Oh, wait: http://0pointer.net/imprint ← main systemd dev. Background: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14681377
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encoded: If you create a user account for 0pointer, #systemd will run its services as root. Oh, wait: http://0pointer.net/imprint ← main systemd dev. Background: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14681377
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http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1462037
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title: bobjonkmanformer: @guy@gnusocial.no My main concern with #systemd is the complexity. Yes, startup scripts may be shorter and easier to read, but putting so much functionality in one component seems like a poor choice for an OS designed around the philosophy of http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1462037
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title: clacke: RT @lnxw48a1 @hobbsc I believe @munin comes from a security orientation: PID 1 should do very few things: start your system, launch processes, kill processes, shut down your system, and a couple of others. Systemd is just too invasive fo https://social.heldscal.la/notice/2282596
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title: bobjonkmanformer: I'm not sure !Devuan yet has the legendary stability of !Debian, nor a full suite of non- #SystemD applications in its repositories. But I'll be working my computers over to Devuan when it's a good fit.
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title: lnxw48a1: @hobbsc I believe @munin comes from a security orientation: PID 1 should do very few things: start your system, launch processes, kill processes, shut down your system, and a couple of others. Systemd is just too invasive for that role. I'm https://nu.federati.net/notice/286159
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mcscx: RT @schestowitz #systemd R! /dir/.* destroys root http://qttr.at/1scw
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schestowitz: #systemd R! /dir/.* destroys root https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644
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title: bobjonkmanformer: @kat@quitter.se @benfell@cybernude.org I'm trying out !Devuan in a VM. So far, it seems that the Devuan repositories aren't quite as rich as the !Debian repositories. Some non-repository .deb packages (eg. #FreeSwitch) have #SystemD dependenci http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1084285
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title: vinzv: "I just don’t get the passionate hatred systemd has. I guess perhaps I never will, and I guess thats ok. I would kindly ask those who do passionately dislike systemd to just move on to somewhere without it[…]" https://gnusocial.de/url/3144867 #systemd
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title: lnxw48: @daw Not seeing that as better. Out of all users, root should be able to shut system down. Others optional. (I know there's new #systemD syntax for it, but in that case, remove shutdown and put a message pointing to the new way.)
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encoded: @daw Not seeing that as better. Out of all users, root should be able to shut system down. Others optional. (I know there's new #systemD syntax for it, but in that case, remove shutdown and put a message pointing to the new way.)
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title: bobjonkmanformer: OK, it's !tzaf for me. Can't install @Freeswitch on Debian Stretch because of an unmet dependency for libssl 1.0.0 (>=1.0.0) since Stretch has libssl 1.0.2 (but that should work, right?) And I can't install @Freeswitch on !Devuan because @Fre http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1066396
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encoded: OK, it's !tzaf for me. Can't install @Freeswitch on Debian Stretch because of an unmet dependency for libssl 1.0.0 (>=1.0.0) since Stretch has libssl 1.0.2 (but that should work, right?) And I can't install @Freeswitch on !Devuan because @Fre…
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mcscx: @heluecht bei Debian-Servern deinstalliere ich gerne #systemd und installiere #sysvcore. Systemd fühlt sich “falsch“ an für mich.
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encoded: @heluecht bei Debian-Servern deinstalliere ich gerne #systemd und installiere #sysvcore. Systemd fühlt sich “falsch“ an für mich.
date: 2016-09-10T10:31:04+00:00
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lnxw48: @question Which #system is overall #toxic? You cannot be talking about the grand and glorious #SystemD.
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encoded: @question Which #system is overall #toxic? You cannot be talking about the grand and glorious #SystemD.
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mcscx: RT @v Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://qttr.at/1g9c
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encoded: RT @v Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://qttr.at/1g9c
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qbi: Loggt euch nie zu oft per #SSH ein. Der #systemd bremst euch sonst https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1591411 !linux
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encoded: Loggt euch nie zu oft per #SSH ein. Der #systemd bremst euch sonst https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1591411 !linux
date: 2016-08-22T06:58:15+00:00
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lnxw48: #Debian / #SystemD bug exposes everything user types (including #passwords) onto text console http://url.federati.net/D5UoC #security
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mcscx: RT @lissovboris #systemd trend is quite dangeous thing. A GNU/Linux distribution should be as simple as possible and embrace UNIX philos ...
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qbi: Seit #systemd lese ich Release Notes wieder besonders aufmerksam … !linux
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encoded: Seit #systemd lese ich Release Notes wieder besonders aufmerksam … !linux
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mcscx: !Slackware's Patrick Volkerding steers clear of #systemd. ur1.ca/pevbe I might go back to Slackware after a 20yr long !Debian 'intermezzo'
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encoded: !Slackware's Patrick Volkerding steers clear of #systemd. ur1.ca/pevbe I might go back to Slackware after a 20yr long !Debian 'intermezzo'
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mcscx: @c107feed indeed, I'd like to run one of those three. Although I don't care for Fedora. And neither for Arch, as they use #systemd. !Debian
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encoded: @c107feed indeed, I'd like to run one of those three. Although I don't care for Fedora. And neither for Arch, as they use #systemd. !Debian
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title: pztrn: Fighting with #debian #preseed again - for some reason /etc/rc.local stalls and I have no way to see what's happening there. Goddamn, #systemd, why r u so freakin' bad? :( I have tried to override output redirection from journald to console+jo https://sn.pztrn.name/notice/367282
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encoded: Fighting with #debian #preseed again - for some reason /etc/rc.local stalls and I have no way to see what's happening there. Goddamn, #systemd, why r u so freakin' bad? :( I have tried to override output redirection from journald to console+jo…
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qbi: Meldungen, über die ich mich amüsieren kann: Failed to terminate process with PID '15431' ('Success'). #systemd !linux
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encoded: Meldungen, über die ich mich amüsieren kann: Failed to terminate process with PID '15431' ('Success'). #systemd !linux
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mcscx: @arashm guess: you may 1st need to set the journald #daemon to write even the debug level events into its db (I know nothing about #systemd)
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encoded: @arashm guess: you may 1st need to set the journald #daemon to write even the debug level events into its db (I know nothing about #systemd)
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mcscx: @benfell "The #runit init system is now enabled by default, replacing #systemd in the base system." ur1.ca/jd8ho
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encoded: @benfell "The #runit init system is now enabled by default, replacing #systemd in the base system." ur1.ca/jd8ho
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mcscx: @hfaust I read that !voidlinux have replaced #systemd after using it previously. +1
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encoded: @hfaust I read that !voidlinux have replaced #systemd after using it previously. +1
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mcscx: @moaz786 Debian 8: install sysv-core to get rid of #systemD
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encoded: @moaz786 Debian 8: install sysv-core to get rid of #systemD
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der: @debian Why should i support Debian, after it became obsolete-on-release Redhat-Clone /w #systemd? (Uninstalling afterwards is no choice!)
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encoded: @debian Why should i support Debian, after it became obsolete-on-release Redhat-Clone /w #systemd? (Uninstalling afterwards is no choice!)
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v: Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://v.villenave.net/url/8652
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lnxw48: @nds @theru @jezra @windigo I agree. Best to install new. Four out of four upgrades to #systemd have blown up, but zero out of five from-scratch installs have had problems.
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encoded: @nds @theru @jezra @windigo I agree. Best to install new. Four out of four upgrades to #systemd have blown up, but zero out of five from-scratch installs have had problems.
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lnxw48: @x11r5 @question Is "first #bot to boot" still boss? Maybe the great #BOTenkhamen, ruler of all #bots, runs #upstart or #systemd. @#bot
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encoded: @x11r5 @question Is "first #bot to boot" still boss? Maybe the great #BOTenkhamen, ruler of all #bots, runs #upstart or #systemd. @#bot
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title: lnxw48: @benfell I am considering #FreeBSD or #NetBSD instead of #Fedora on the desktop machine, but that's mostly because I've not run a BSD in over a decade. #systemd's rapid adoption among distros is concerning, but I consider that a distro-g https://fresh.federati.net/notice/250246
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title: lnxw48: I'm actually mostly neutral about #systemd. My primary concerns are (1) it seems to be expanding its functionality without limit; and (2) even the slightest criticism is taken as anti-systemd fanaticism.
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encoded: I'm actually mostly neutral about #systemd. My primary concerns are (1) it seems to be expanding its functionality without limit; and (2) even the slightest criticism is taken as anti-systemd fanaticism.
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mcscx: RT @lukaso666 How to #remove #systemd from a #Debian jessie / #sid installation → http://is.gd/ENX3SP | #no_systemd #sysvinit
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lukaso666: How to #remove #systemd from a #Debian jessie / #sid installation → http://is.gd/ENX3SP | #no_systemd #sysvinit
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stwn: Even #systemd wants to manage containers. http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/645013/5b801866e690b5d2/ #Docker #CoreOS
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encoded: Even #systemd wants to manage containers. http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/645013/5b801866e690b5d2/ #Docker #CoreOS
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