Mit „systemd“ getaggte Nachrichten auf „1w6 uRPG“!
drak: Oh, great, #systemd sabotages #DNSSEC by ignoring bugs: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/9867 — and has been doing so since 2018.
drak's status on Tuesday, 25-May-21 06:00:14 UTC
Oh, great, #systemd sabotages #DNSSEC by ignoring bugs: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/9867 — and has been doing so since 2018.
drak: power and blindness: the tragedy behind #systemd: https://www.draketo.de/english/politics/power-blindness-systemd
drak's status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-19 16:11:19 UTC
power and blindness: the tragedy behind #systemd: https://www.draketo.de/english/politics/power-blindness-systemd
drak: Many good reasons to avoid #systemd wherever you can: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3u2ahq/whats_wrong_with_systemd/
drak's status on Sunday, 04-Nov-18 14:42:58 UTC
Many good reasons to avoid #systemd wherever you can: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3u2ahq/whats_wrong_with_systemd/
qbi: Habt ihr Erfahrung mit #systemd gemacht? Erzählt dem @datenkanal davon: https://vereinte.verwirrung.institute/p/dk70 !linux !debian
qbi's status on Thursday, 12-Apr-18 12:37:46 UTC
Habt ihr Erfahrung mit #systemd gemacht? Erzählt dem @datenkanal davon: https://vereinte.verwirrung.institute/p/dk70 !linux !debian
clacke: No idea how many of these have 3 users and how many have 30000, but wow, that is a number of Arch derivatives: Alfheim Linux ALOBE Antergos ArchBox ArchEX ArchLabs Arch Linux 32 Arch Linux ARM ArchStrike Arch XFerience Artix Linux Astia https://social.heldscal.la/notice/6212836
clacke's status on Sunday, 18-Feb-18 10:29:03 UTC
No idea how many of these have 3 users and how many have 30000, but wow, that is a number of Arch derivatives: Alfheim Linux ALOBE Antergos ArchBox ArchEX ArchLabs Arch Linux 32 Arch Linux ARM ArchStrike Arch XFerience Artix Linux Astia…
mcscx: RT @rysiek #systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
mcscx's status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-17 00:37:31 UTC
RT @rysiek #systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
rysiek: #systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
rysiek's status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-17 22:04:12 UTC
#systemd is amazing. Produces copious amounts of logging that do not actually say anything useful.
mcscx: Installed a test system with Ubuntu 17: DNS doesn't work w/ vanilla install. The local DNS server (provided by #systemd) needs "DNSSEC=no"
mcscx's status on Monday, 30-Oct-17 01:32:48 UTC
Installed a test system with Ubuntu 17: DNS doesn't work w/ vanilla install. The local DNS server (provided by #systemd) needs "DNSSEC=no"
clacke: @bob @stigatle Seems LTS focused. Also no #systemd: https://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-systemd-support/
clacke's status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-17 16:19:42 UTC
@bob @stigatle Seems LTS focused. Also no #systemd: https://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-systemd-support/
clacke: Is there a trivial way to tell a systemd unit to not run until rc.local has been run? I guess rc.local is run by some #systemd unit that I can use as a prerequisite?
clacke's status on Thursday, 19-Oct-17 08:55:49 UTC
Is there a trivial way to tell a systemd unit to not run until rc.local has been run? I guess rc.local is run by some #systemd unit that I can use as a prerequisite?
qbi: Die letzte gute Tat des Abends wäre es, eine service-Datei für #systemd zu schreiben. !linux !debian
qbi's status on Friday, 15-Sep-17 21:11:58 UTC
Die letzte gute Tat des Abends wäre es, eine service-Datei für #systemd zu schreiben. !linux !debian
drak: Theorie zu #systemd und Microsoft: https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/News-Kommentare/Fuchsia-Google-veroeffentlicht-Code-fuer-ein-neues-Betriebssystem/Linux-und-systemd-Poettering-wird-von-Microsoft-bezahlt/posting-29051456/show/ — gerade drüber gestolpert
drak's status on Thursday, 06-Jul-17 06:03:46 UTC
Theorie zu #systemd und Microsoft: <a href="https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/News-Kommentare/Fuchsia-Google-veroeffentlicht-Code-fuer-ein-neues-Betriebssystem/Linux-und-systemd-Poettering-wird-von-Microsoft-bezahlt/posting-29051456/show/" title="https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/News-Kommentare/Fuchsia-Google-veroeffentlicht-Code-fuer-ein-neues-Betriebssystem/Linux-und-systemd-Poettering-wird-von-Microsoft-bezahlt/posting-29051456/show/" rel="nofollow external">https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/News-Kommentare/Fuchsia-Google-veroeffentlicht-Code-fuer-ein-neues-Betriebssystem/Linux-und-systemd-Poettering-wird-von-Microsoft-bezahlt/posting-29051456/show/ — gerade drüber gestolpert
drak: If you create a user account for 0pointer, #systemd will run its services as root. Oh, wait: http://0pointer.net/imprint ← main systemd dev. Background: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14681377
drak's status on Sunday, 02-Jul-17 10:47:54 UTC
If you create a user account for 0pointer, #systemd will run its services as root. Oh, wait: http://0pointer.net/imprint ← main systemd dev. Background: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14681377
bobjonkmanformer: @guy@gnusocial.no My main concern with #systemd is the complexity. Yes, startup scripts may be shorter and easier to read, but putting so much functionality in one component seems like a poor choice for an OS designed around the philosophy of http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1462037
bobjonkmanformer's status on Sunday, 21-May-17 19:19:41 UTC
@guy@gnusocial.no My main concern with #systemd is the complexity. Yes, startup scripts may be shorter and easier to read, but putting so much functionality in one component seems like a poor choice for an OS designed around the philosophy of …
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clacke: RT @lnxw48a1 @hobbsc I believe @munin comes from a security orientation: PID 1 should do very few things: start your system, launch processes, kill processes, shut down your system, and a couple of others. Systemd is just too invasive fo https://social.heldscal.la/notice/2282596
clacke's status on Sunday, 21-May-17 00:23:50 UTC
RT @lnxw48a1 @hobbsc I believe @munin comes from a security orientation: PID 1 should do very few things: start your system, launch processes, kill processes, shut down your system, and a couple of others. Systemd is just too invasive fo…
bobjonkmanformer: I'm not sure !Devuan yet has the legendary stability of !Debian, nor a full suite of non- #SystemD applications in its repositories. But I'll be working my computers over to Devuan when it's a good fit.
bobjonkmanformer's status on Saturday, 20-May-17 18:14:10 UTC
I'm not sure !Devuan yet has the legendary stability of !Debian, nor a full suite of non- #SystemD applications in its repositories. But I'll be working my computers over to Devuan when it's a good fit.
lnxw48a1: @hobbsc I believe @munin comes from a security orientation: PID 1 should do very few things: start your system, launch processes, kill processes, shut down your system, and a couple of others. Systemd is just too invasive for that role. I'm https://nu.federati.net/notice/286159
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 20-May-17 17:56:05 UTC
@hobbsc I believe @munin comes from a security orientation: PID 1 should do very few things: start your system, launch processes, kill processes, shut down your system, and a couple of others. Systemd is just too invasive for that role. I'm…
mcscx: RT @schestowitz #systemd R! /dir/.* destroys root http://qttr.at/1scw
mcscx's status on Monday, 17-Apr-17 12:14:59 UTC
RT @schestowitz #systemd R! /dir/.* destroys root http://qttr.at/1scw
schestowitz: #systemd R! /dir/.* destroys root https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644
schestowitz's status on Monday, 17-Apr-17 12:02:22 UTC
#systemd R! /dir/.* destroys root https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644
bobjonkmanformer: @kat@quitter.se @benfell@cybernude.org I'm trying out !Devuan in a VM. So far, it seems that the Devuan repositories aren't quite as rich as the !Debian repositories. Some non-repository .deb packages (eg. #FreeSwitch) have #SystemD dependenci http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1084285
bobjonkmanformer's status on Friday, 07-Oct-16 17:31:04 UTC
@kat@quitter.se @benfell@cybernude.org I'm trying out !Devuan in a VM. So far, it seems that the Devuan repositories aren't quite as rich as the !Debian repositories. Some non-repository .deb packages (eg. #FreeSwitch) have #SystemD dependenci…
vinzv: "I just don’t get the passionate hatred systemd has. I guess perhaps I never will, and I guess thats ok. I would kindly ask those who do passionately dislike systemd to just move on to somewhere without it[…]" https://gnusocial.de/url/3144867 #systemd
vinzv's status on Sunday, 02-Oct-16 12:32:18 UTC
"I just don’t get the passionate hatred systemd has. I guess perhaps I never will, and I guess thats ok. I would kindly ask those who do passionately dislike systemd to just move on to somewhere without it[…]" https://gnusocial.de/url/3144867 #systemd
lnxw48: @daw Not seeing that as better. Out of all users, root should be able to shut system down. Others optional. (I know there's new #systemD syntax for it, but in that case, remove shutdown and put a message pointing to the new way.)
lnxw48's status on Wednesday, 28-Sep-16 20:53:39 UTC
@daw Not seeing that as better. Out of all users, root should be able to shut system down. Others optional. (I know there's new #systemD syntax for it, but in that case, remove shutdown and put a message pointing to the new way.)
bobjonkmanformer: OK, it's !tzaf for me. Can't install @Freeswitch on Debian Stretch because of an unmet dependency for libssl 1.0.0 (>=1.0.0) since Stretch has libssl 1.0.2 (but that should work, right?) And I can't install @Freeswitch on !Devuan because @Fre http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1066396
bobjonkmanformer's status on Friday, 23-Sep-16 09:55:03 UTC
OK, it's !tzaf for me. Can't install @Freeswitch on Debian Stretch because of an unmet dependency for libssl 1.0.0 (>=1.0.0) since Stretch has libssl 1.0.2 (but that should work, right?) And I can't install @Freeswitch on !Devuan because @Fre…
mcscx: @heluecht bei Debian-Servern deinstalliere ich gerne #systemd und installiere #sysvcore. Systemd fühlt sich “falsch“ an für mich.
mcscx's status on Saturday, 10-Sep-16 10:31:04 UTC
@heluecht bei Debian-Servern deinstalliere ich gerne #systemd und installiere #sysvcore. Systemd fühlt sich “falsch“ an für mich.
lnxw48: @question Which #system is overall #toxic? You cannot be talking about the grand and glorious #SystemD.
lnxw48's status on Saturday, 27-Aug-16 12:23:20 UTC
@question Which #system is overall #toxic? You cannot be talking about the grand and glorious #SystemD.
mcscx: RT @v Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://qttr.at/1g9c
mcscx's status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-16 00:54:22 UTC
RT @v Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://qttr.at/1g9c
qbi: Loggt euch nie zu oft per #SSH ein. Der #systemd bremst euch sonst https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1591411 !linux
qbi's status on Monday, 22-Aug-16 06:58:15 UTC
Loggt euch nie zu oft per #SSH ein. Der #systemd bremst euch sonst https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1591411 !linux
lnxw48: #Debian / #SystemD bug exposes everything user types (including #passwords) onto text console http://url.federati.net/D5UoC #security
lnxw48's status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-16 22:11:16 UTC
#Debian / #SystemD bug exposes everything user types (including #passwords) onto text console http://url.federati.net/D5UoC #security
mcscx: RT @lissovboris #systemd trend is quite dangeous thing. A GNU/Linux distribution should be as simple as possible and embrace UNIX philos ...
mcscx's status on Monday, 08-Aug-16 12:21:55 UTC
RT @lissovboris #systemd trend is quite dangeous thing. A GNU/Linux distribution should be as simple as possible and embrace UNIX philos ...
lissovboris: #systemd trend is quite dangeous thing. A GNU/Linux distribution should be as simple as possible and embrace UNIX philosophy. I hope that #GuixSD will be more or less useable soon, so it will be possible to migrate on this solution, provided b https://gnusocial.no/notice/1126216
lissovboris's status on Monday, 08-Aug-16 11:59:34 UTC
#systemd trend is quite dangeous thing. A GNU/Linux distribution should be as simple as possible and embrace UNIX philosophy. I hope that #GuixSD will be more or less useable soon, so it will be possible to migrate on this solution, provided b…
qbi: Seit #systemd lese ich Release Notes wieder besonders aufmerksam … !linux
qbi's status on Saturday, 30-Jul-16 12:03:47 UTC
Seit #systemd lese ich Release Notes wieder besonders aufmerksam … !linux
mcscx: !Slackware's Patrick Volkerding steers clear of #systemd. ur1.ca/pevbe I might go back to Slackware after a 20yr long !Debian 'intermezzo'
mcscx's status on Tuesday, 05-Jul-16 12:41:45 UTC
!Slackware's Patrick Volkerding steers clear of #systemd. ur1.ca/pevbe I might go back to Slackware after a 20yr long !Debian 'intermezzo'
mcscx: @c107feed indeed, I'd like to run one of those three. Although I don't care for Fedora. And neither for Arch, as they use #systemd. !Debian
mcscx's status on Tuesday, 31-May-16 02:42:33 UTC
@c107feed indeed, I'd like to run one of those three. Although I don't care for Fedora. And neither for Arch, as they use #systemd. !Debian
pztrn: Fighting with #debian #preseed again - for some reason /etc/rc.local stalls and I have no way to see what's happening there. Goddamn, #systemd, why r u so freakin' bad? :( I have tried to override output redirection from journald to console+jo https://sn.pztrn.name/notice/367282
pztrn's status on Wednesday, 04-May-16 08:31:13 UTC
Fighting with #debian #preseed again - for some reason /etc/rc.local stalls and I have no way to see what's happening there. Goddamn, #systemd, why r u so freakin' bad? :( I have tried to override output redirection from journald to console+jo…
qbi: Meldungen, über die ich mich amüsieren kann: Failed to terminate process with PID '15431' ('Success'). #systemd !linux
qbi's status on Monday, 18-Apr-16 14:39:10 UTC
Meldungen, über die ich mich amüsieren kann: Failed to terminate process with PID '15431' ('Success'). #systemd !linux
mcscx: @arashm guess: you may 1st need to set the journald #daemon to write even the debug level events into its db (I know nothing about #systemd)
mcscx's status on Wednesday, 30-Mar-16 22:53:33 UTC
@arashm guess: you may 1st need to set the journald #daemon to write even the debug level events into its db (I know nothing about #systemd)
mcscx: @benfell "The #runit init system is now enabled by default, replacing #systemd in the base system." ur1.ca/jd8ho
mcscx's status on Sunday, 14-Feb-16 12:33:33 UTC
@benfell "The #runit init system is now enabled by default, replacing #systemd in the base system." ur1.ca/jd8ho
mcscx: @hfaust I read that !voidlinux have replaced #systemd after using it previously. +1
mcscx's status on Sunday, 14-Feb-16 11:03:11 UTC
@hfaust I read that !voidlinux have replaced #systemd after using it previously. +1
mcscx: @moaz786 Debian 8: install sysv-core to get rid of #systemD
mcscx's status on Wednesday, 25-Nov-15 03:23:16 UTC
@moaz786 Debian 8: install sysv-core to get rid of #systemD
der: @debian Why should i support Debian, after it became obsolete-on-release Redhat-Clone /w #systemd? (Uninstalling afterwards is no choice!)
der's status on Tuesday, 24-Nov-15 08:52:56 UTC
@debian Why should i support Debian, after it became obsolete-on-release Redhat-Clone /w #systemd? (Uninstalling afterwards is no choice!)
v: Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://v.villenave.net/url/8652
v's status on Saturday, 17-Oct-15 18:16:23 UTC
Everything you always wanted to know about #Systemd* (*But were afraid to ask) http://v.villenave.net/url/8652
lnxw48: @nds @theru @jezra @windigo I agree. Best to install new. Four out of four upgrades to #systemd have blown up, but zero out of five from-scratch installs have had problems.
lnxw48's status on Monday, 05-Oct-15 18:16:11 UTC
@nds @theru @jezra @windigo I agree. Best to install new. Four out of four upgrades to #systemd have blown up, but zero out of five from-scratch installs have had problems.
lnxw48: @x11r5 @question Is "first #bot to boot" still boss? Maybe the great #BOTenkhamen, ruler of all #bots, runs #upstart or #systemd. @#bot
lnxw48's status on Thursday, 01-Oct-15 22:37:35 UTC
@x11r5 @question Is "first #bot to boot" still boss? Maybe the great #BOTenkhamen, ruler of all #bots, runs #upstart or #systemd. @#bot
lnxw48: @benfell I am considering #FreeBSD or #NetBSD instead of #Fedora on the desktop machine, but that's mostly because I've not run a BSD in over a decade. #systemd's rapid adoption among distros is concerning, but I consider that a distro-g https://fresh.federati.net/notice/250246
lnxw48's status on Tuesday, 16-Jun-15 05:41:28 UTC
@benfell I am considering #FreeBSD or #NetBSD instead of #Fedora on the desktop machine, but that's mostly because I've not run a BSD in over a decade. #systemd's rapid adoption among distros is concerning, but I consider that a distro-g…
lnxw48: I'm actually mostly neutral about #systemd. My primary concerns are (1) it seems to be expanding its functionality without limit; and (2) even the slightest criticism is taken as anti-systemd fanaticism.
lnxw48's status on Tuesday, 16-Jun-15 03:26:20 UTC
I'm actually mostly neutral about #systemd. My primary concerns are (1) it seems to be expanding its functionality without limit; and (2) even the slightest criticism is taken as anti-systemd fanaticism.
mcscx: RT @lukaso666 How to #remove #systemd from a #Debian jessie / #sid installation → http://is.gd/ENX3SP | #no_systemd #sysvinit
mcscx's status on Wednesday, 03-Jun-15 01:19:27 UTC
RT @lukaso666 How to #remove #systemd from a #Debian jessie / #sid installation → http://is.gd/ENX3SP | #no_systemd #sysvinit
lukaso666: How to #remove #systemd from a #Debian jessie / #sid installation → http://is.gd/ENX3SP | #no_systemd #sysvinit
lukaso666's status on Wednesday, 03-Jun-15 00:57:23 UTC
How to #remove #systemd from a #Debian jessie / #sid installation → http://is.gd/ENX3SP | #no_systemd #sysvinit
stwn: Even #systemd wants to manage containers. http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/645013/5b801866e690b5d2/ #Docker #CoreOS
stwn's status on Friday, 22-May-15 10:37:23 UTC
Even #systemd wants to manage containers. http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/645013/5b801866e690b5d2/ #Docker #CoreOS