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“I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I must share it with other people who like it.” → http://sn.1w6.org/url/875 @rms — for me the same goes with !libre culture.
Monday, 21-Oct-13 06:18:37 UTC from web- kuro likes this.
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@drak for me the same should go with everything :) houses, food, stuff
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It only works for stuff which can be replicated with approximately zero cost.
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@drak why? everything for everyone! if house is too small we just have to fit inside it anyway, or build one more
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because the real world has real constraints: neighbors and limited resources. Please don’t try to use solutions for problems in the digital world for the real world without adapting them to the different requirements. Otherwise you make the same error as the media industry which tries to use analog solutions with digital goods.
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@drak i agree with media industry there. copying is not an (close-to-) unlimited, it requires quite a bit of energy in production&operation.
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@drak and that's the revolutionary potential in file-sharing: it shows a different way of doing things (with limited resources)
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@drak take food: rich countries have ~400% more than we actually eat. it's just as absurd not to share food as it is to not share files.
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@drak not sharing is more absurd with limited resources. rather we all are malnourished, than some being fat and some dying of starvation
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copying is close to unlimited: Copying your *entire harddisk* to my computer costs about 1€ (1 day of computer power consumption).
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@hannes2peer: Copying more music than I can every listen to in my whole life costs less than 1€. That’s what I call close to unlimited.
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@drak i think you under estimate the labor/energy involved in mining for materials, production of appliances, running of servers etc etc etc
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@hannes2peer: With limited resources, you not only need sharing but also usage policing. Hard question: Who gets the best places in the theater?
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@hannes2peer: All that cost is paid whether we share or not, so adding it to the cost of sharing is incorrect.
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@drak solution is to abolish theater (the whole spectacle of society) and create a new participatory culture, no stage-audience relation.
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@drak but stuff like housing and food it's simple, just give equal access to it.
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@drak if we did not share stuff we would not produce and keep the machines running (but of course, in _capitalism_ maybe we would...)
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@hannes2peer: If we did not share media-files we would still read email and visit websites ← sharing reuses existing infrastructure.
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@hannes2peer: Who can join my saturday #roleplaying group? Those do not scale beyond 9 people.
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