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  1. drak drak Libre

    “I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I must share it with other people who like it.” → http://sn.1w6.org/url/875 @rms — for me the same goes with !libre culture.

    Monday, 21-Oct-13 06:18:37 UTC von web
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    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak for me the same should go with everything :) houses, food, stuff

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 07:59:34 UTC
    • drak drak hannes2peer

      It only works for stuff which can be replicated with approximately zero cost.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 08:17:47 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak why? everything for everyone! if house is too small we just have to fit inside it anyway, or build one more

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 08:21:28 UTC
    • drak drak hannes2peer

      because the real world has real constraints: neighbors and limited resources. Please don’t try to use solutions for problems in the digital world for the real world without adapting them to the different requirements. Otherwise you make the same error as the media industry which tries to use analog solutions with digital goods.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 08:36:23 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak i agree with media industry there. copying is not an (close-to-) unlimited, it requires quite a bit of energy in production&operation.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 12:36:00 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak and that's the revolutionary potential in file-sharing: it shows a different way of doing things (with limited resources)

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 12:36:39 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak take food: rich countries have ~400% more than we actually eat. it's just as absurd not to share food as it is to not share files.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 12:39:10 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak not sharing is more absurd with limited resources. rather we all are malnourished, than some being fat and some dying of starvation

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 12:41:04 UTC
    • drak drak hannes2peer

      copying is close to unlimited: Copying your *entire harddisk* to my computer costs about 1€ (1 day of computer power consumption).

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 12:57:15 UTC
    • drak drak hannes2peer

      @hannes2peer: Copying more music than I can every listen to in my whole life costs less than 1€. That’s what I call close to unlimited.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 12:59:32 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak i think you under estimate the labor/energy involved in mining for materials, production of appliances, running of servers etc etc etc

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 13:03:55 UTC
    • drak drak hannes2peer

      @hannes2peer: With limited resources, you not only need sharing but also usage policing. Hard question: Who gets the best places in the theater?

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 13:05:16 UTC
    • drak drak hannes2peer

      @hannes2peer: All that cost is paid whether we share or not, so adding it to the cost of sharing is incorrect.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 13:08:27 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak solution is to abolish theater (the whole spectacle of society) and create a new participatory culture, no stage-audience relation.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 13:10:27 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak but stuff like housing and food it's simple, just give equal access to it.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 13:11:04 UTC
    • hannes2peer hannes2peer

      @drak if we did not share stuff we would not produce and keep the machines running (but of course, in _capitalism_ maybe we would...)

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 13:13:13 UTC
    • drak drak hannes2peer

      @hannes2peer: If we did not share media-files we would still read email and visit websites ← sharing reuses existing infrastructure.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 13:22:19 UTC
    • drak drak hannes2peer

      @hannes2peer: Who can join my saturday #roleplaying group? Those do not scale beyond 9 people.

      Monday, 21-Oct-13 13:26:44 UTC

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