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1. clacke tcltk

   The rise and decline of !tcltk : an analysis.
   
   It's a good read and written in quite a narrative form, so I think I'm going to read it out loud as an #hprep.
   
   https://journal.dedasys.com/2010/03/30/where-tcl-and-tk-went-wrong/

   Sunday, 06-Aug-17 13:40:56 UTC von social.heldscal.la
   • clacke tcltk

     A response to the article brings up a concrete example of the technical and social challenges using !tcltk :
     
     http://robertvbinder.com/what-i-learned-building-a-software-product-with-tcl/

     Sunday, 06-Aug-17 16:04:24 UTC
   • clacke

     /via https://lobste.rs/s/79hpcl/where_tcl_tk_went_wrong

     Sunday, 06-Aug-17 16:19:24 UTC
   • clacke

     Posted. http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2386

     Sunday, 27-Aug-17 08:22:18 UTC
   • clacke

     Of course only minutes later I find the page I was hoping would exist: http://www.tkdocs.com/resources/languages.html It's not very exhaustive, but I did forget to mention Ruby/Tk. Does anyone know a longer list of languages with Tk pa…

     Sunday, 27-Aug-17 08:29:36 UTC
   • clacke

     To further entangle their histories, there was of course a Guile Tk, now abandoned for Guile Gnome.
     
     https://wiki.tcl.tk/4546

     Sunday, 27-Aug-17 08:31:34 UTC
   • clacke perloid

     @perloid Oops, I see now that I messed up the show notes. They come two times, first the draft and then the real thing. Also the lede says the post was from 2017-03-30 rather than 2010-03-30. Could you fix it? Cut everything before the …

     Thursday, 21-Sep-17 15:54:07 UTC
   • clacke

     Commented on my own episode: > There's also a Ruby/Tk, and there used to be a Guile Tk (best frenemies!), but Guile Tk was deprecated and replaced with Guile GTK, which was then replaced with Guile Gnome. > It's pretty funny that altho…

     Friday, 22-Sep-17 06:24:11 UTC
   • clacke

     I just realized that this of course means that Guile Gnome depends on tcl too. Peak irony.

     Friday, 22-Sep-17 06:26:14 UTC