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1. drak

   I hope, dearly this is not as bad as I fear: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/08/alaskas-tundra-is-filling-the-atmosphere-with-carbon-dioxide-worsening-climate-change/

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   • drak

     “It appears now that the microbes are winning.” ← swearing in my mind, cursing human idiocy, thinking of Hansen et al. 2016: http://www.draketo.de/english/science/hansen-2016

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   • zoowar

     We lost control decades ago.

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   • drak

     ok, this just clears the 2σ threshold and is 3 months old (missed in my reduced contract-is-ending reading). Rest can wait till tomorrow.

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   • drak zoowar

     The best estimate 2 years ago was "throw a die. If you get a 1, we can only try to limit the damage, on a 2-6 we can still stop this".

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   • zoowar

     We missed the chance to save the world back in the 70s during the energy crisis.

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   • drak zoowar

     we still had lots more chances since then. Even by 2010 we still could have stopped it. Now we’re closing in on having a technical problem.

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   • zoowar

     Maybe, but there was never more public will, motivated by deprivation pressure, than there was during the energy crisis. Since then, it's been mostly lip service.

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     drak gefällt das.
   • drak zoowar

     that’s possible, yes. I wasn’t even born then …

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