Antworten an drak, Seite 46

kuro drak

@drak hübsch formuliert

erkan Freenet Project , drak

also: time to mirror/host your instance also into the !freenet ?

erkan drak

time to make a backup ;-)

cyberkiller drak

♻ @drak: is.gd/6hbnom ← cool idea! (answer: … ☺)

mk drak

@drak there are still things I don't understand ;-) what I also don't understand is applications* having a direct dependency on systemd. But I'm not really going to dive in in an effort to understand all this in detail - I've read eno…

mk drak

@drak. *exactly* - you need to split up things, possibly in layers, so that one layer can be in place before the layer on top can load. But the init system cannot do that - only a redesign of the services themselves (and that is way harder than creating just a new init system)

mk drak

@drak ha! also on that page I read: "recently, some dependency change in the sysvinit source package made the situation more complicated: ifupdown and openssh-server depends on a version of sysv-rc, which makes it impossible to instal…

mk drak

@drak I also read on that page: "The transition should be very easy if we decide to get rid of the old sysv-rc package. Just have sysv-rc become a transition package which depends on OpenRC, and let everyone upgrade." Which clearly de…

mk drak

@drak loading that page the first I see is a script using depend() - interesting, but can such a mechanism prevent circular dependencies? I think not. Again: it's the services themselves that need to be taken into account, and possibl…

franko drak , mcscx , mk

@mk @drak @mcscx @pztrn Must cnfess I don't rlly understand init process, but sm of it DOES look scary. How comes evrybdy went for systemd?

mcscx drak , dragnucs

@dragnucs source of C programs is already much more complicated than shell scripts. And @drak's link talks about a single point of failure

dragnucs drak , mcscx , mk

@mcscx @mk @drak Ain't it open source? You can get the source of the file and look at it.

mcscx drak , mk

@mk from @drak's link I seem to understand systemd involves binary files → bad, while systemv consists of simple scripts & text files→good

mcscx drak , mk

@drak good to know (at least some hope).I'd prefer a stable & simple system. @mk did have some systemd-related problems on her recent update

mcscx Debian , drak

@drak do I have a choice of avoiding systemd when I will update from !Debian Wheezy to a newer version ?

mcscx drak , der

@drak : @der hat die #EpicBrowser Sources bekommen auf Anfrage, siehe dieser Thread ↑

mcscx drak , der

@der #EpicBrowser... haben die den Source inzwischen online gestellt? @drak und ich haben die mal auf Twitter gelöchert deswegen.

jluttine drak , mcscx

@mcscx @drak I'm not doing anything special (at least not aware). Just clicking the link I gave.

mcscx drak , jluttine

@jluttine interesting, how did you get this? @drak is the admin there… avatars seem not working properly either